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Feb
20

An Open Letter To Liberals

By TheGuru

To Whom It May Concern:

It has come to my attention that even though We The People have made our preference for you to leave our health care system alone, you have now decided to attempt to ram this boondoggle down our throats using any means at your disposal. We have voiced our negative opinion of your approach to health care reform and you’ve ignored us. We have marched in the streets of Washington, D.C. and you’ve turned a blind eye and a deaf ear. We’ve made telephone calls, signed petitions, and recruited our friend and family to work with us to defeat this bill at every opportunity and you’ve continued tried to march us toward the socialism that you seem so desperate bring to America.

For more than 60 years, you have worked to subvert our Constitution, transfer the wealth of our working families to non-producers, and sold our children’s future to fund your re-election efforts. The goal for you has always been the raw, unadulterated power associated with being elites within a two-class system. You claim that the have’s must be converted to have not’s while you secretly plundered the treasury of this Country for your own personal gain. You have put your personal good ahead of the good of America and you’ve given yourselves over to the lusts of your intellects.

You have assumed that the ends justify the means and you’ve believed that somehow you know better than We The People how to rule this Nation and you’ve done everything possible to position yourselves to be at the top of the food chain when you finally get your way. Every time your ideas are tried they have failed. You accuse others of having impure motives while working your own impure motives overtime. You’ve selected Judges to subvert the rule of law. You’ve appointed haters of American Values as the heads of your bureaucracies. You’ve elected (often through cheating) those who would blindly follow the Liberal agenda and when they’ve out-lived their usefulness, you’ve worked to replace them with Liberal partisans who are just as blind as those they replace.

I am only one American and I have no resources and I have no power, save one: my vote. And I can promise you one thing, should you push Health Care Reform through after we’ve made our feelings clear over and over again, I will vote against you every chance I have and I will work with every fiber of my being to convince as many people as possible to join me in my mission of sending you home and preventing liberals from ever gaining power in the Country again. You will ignore my promise, or toss it aside as a “threat”, but do not doubt my resolve. I have not forgotten that our Founding Fathers gave us a Republic, and the responsibility to protect it for the next generation.

Ignore me if you want. Laugh at me if you will. You will not do so after November, 2010.

Sincerely,

An American Citizen

7 Comments

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I would also like to add that if/when persons of reason are ever to be
in control and wield the power currently held by the libs, I do not want to hear one of them say a word when they defund, rescind, and abolish every law passed by this current administration.
When persons of sound minds prevail and have a “mandate from the masses” to do the peoples will.
By the peoples will I mean remove the federal government from all aspects of life except those expressly delegated to it by the states.
You cant give me healthcare- its not yours to give.

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I’ll vote for that.

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Uh, last time I looked, the Constitution says that the legislature has the right to write laws. And with duly elected officials presiding in the majority, the legislation was passed with more than the required vote.
I guess I don’t understand where the gripe is.
It sounds like to me the people have spoken.

It wasn’t “by any means at your disposal” – it was by legal means established by the Constitution.
Where did this “work to subvert the Constitution” come in?
The “after we’ve made our feelings clear” should apply to majority rule, no?
Recent Harris polls now show that more American APPROVE of this bill (49%) than oppose it (40%), so please accept the facts.

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Vinny, the last time I looked, no one has ever said that the legislature doesn’t have the right to write laws. The “gripe” is that the Constitution also gives the people the right to petition their government and to express their concerns about any legislation. Legislators are generally expected to listen, though admittedly they not required to follow the will of the people. But Legislators haven’t even pretend to hear the voices of the opposition.

You reference “recent” Harris polls, but provide no link to back up your claim, so I’ll link to one done on March 19th – 20th, 2010 by Rasmussen that states:

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone poll, taken Friday and Saturday nights, shows that 41% of likely voters favor the health care plan. Fifty-four percent (54%) are opposed. These figures have barely budged in recent months.

Based on this and your own comment that the majority rules, the bill should not have been enacted. If you actually read the article, you would have realized that the comment about subverting the Constitution was explicitly directed at the work of Liberals over the last 60 years where there are plenty of examples not the least of which is the work of ACORN to subvert the voting process by overwhelming Voter Registrars in states all over the country with fraudulent registrations. Additionally, the stacking of the judicial system with liberal judges is a well known fact.

I have to give Liberals credit, they have done an excellent job of covering all their basis and they have done a great job of pulling the wool over the eyes of willing accomplices like yourself who surf the internet looking for opportunities to spread your “reasonable lies” as truth when in fact you are simply spewing Liberal talking points.

One has to wonder why you took the time to post here when you admit you don’t understand what the gripe is. Maybe you should spend some more time reading the material found on this site and you’ll understand better. However, I suspect that you are simply a troll looking for ways to convince the ignorant to believe your tripe.

Good luck with doing that here.

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Thanks for a real response. Usually I simply get cursed at and deleted when I make a comment on a site such as yours, so I appreciate that you can hold a decent dialogue.

First, there have been several new polls out now that show a bump in approval ratings for both Obama and health care reform since the package passed.

Harris poll story: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2010/03/poll_health-care_reform_more_p.html

ABC poll story:
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2010/03/26/polls-indicate-support-for-health-care-reform-up-since-vote/
Two of the surveys, by CBS News and Quinnipiac University, asked virtually the same question about health care both before and after Sunday’s vote, and in both polls support for the legislation rose by four to five percentage points.

Recent Gallup poll.
Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
Recent CBS poll:

CBS: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/24/politics/main6328286.shtml

The point is: People approve of the change.
People benefit from the changes.
Would you have us go back to seniors losing their money down a doughnut hole, families getting kicked off the rolls as soon as a member gets sick.

If we listened to the conservative voices all the time there would still be slaves, there would be no Social Security, and women would not have the vote yet.

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I promise no cursing and no deleting, however, I do have to apologize for taking so long to get back to you. It’s been a busy week and I wanted to take the time to consider your comments before responding.

We can both spend plenty of time pulling up polls that support our particular stance and never get anywhere, but I would point out that reviewing Gallup’s website tonight shows that Obama’s approval rating is at 48% down 20 points from a high of 68%. Currently, Obama is tracking at a lower approval rating than Jimmy Carter did at the same time in his Presidency. Both Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are suffering from huge disapproval ratings and Congress as a whole shows an overall approval rating of 16%. Additionally and perhaps more importantly, the GOP now has an edge over the Democrats with registered voters now saying they prefer the Republican to the Democratic candidate in their district by 47% to 44% in the midterm congressional elections which cannot bode well for the Democrats in November.

At Rasmussen, the news is no better with Obama’s Approval Index remaining in negative territory since June, 2009. You cite reports from CBS and ABC as prima facia evidence of the American People’s support of health care, but I would argue that ABC and CBS along with CNN and MSNBC polls are NOT valid for sources since they have been in the tank for Obama and his socialistic policies since day one. It’s a lot like asking a salesman if his product is the right one to buy. Would a good salesman ever tell you that you were buying a lemon?

Your point is that “People approve of the change”. Unfortunately, your sources are simply wrong at best and culpable at worst. The government’s solution for the doughnut hole you mention in regards to healthcare ranges from $250 to $3600 dollars based on annual drug expenditures and this Healthcare Reform Act that you’ve sold your soul to, is expected to provide $250 to assist with the doughnut hole. Leaving 95% of the hole intact.

And finally, to your comment that if we listened to the conservative voices all the time there would still be slaves, no Social Security and women could not vote. To which I would say you are either trying to be annoying or completely ignorant of the facts.

Firstly, the Republican Party was founded by conservatives who felt that slavery was wrong and wanted to stop its spread to the territories. Democrats on the other hand fought tooth and nail to keep slavery in place. All of the major civil rights legislation passed in the last 100 years only passed because of Republican and yes, conservative votes, who believed in the truth that all men are created equal.
Second, Conservatives and to some degree Republicans have been trying to salvage Social Security and keep it afloat for over 20 years. However, one of the dirty little secrets of the Fiscal Irresponsibility of Congress is that Social Security fund accounts are all empty. The money has been replaced with IOU’s offered by Congress to cover their profligate spending. But think about it: If Congress holds the purse strings and the Democrats have had control of the Congress for 50 of the last 60 years, who’s to blame for the mis-management?
Third: In 1848, Gerrit Smith of the Liberty Party (succeeded by the Republican Party), made giving women the right to vote as part of his Presidential Platform. Arguably conservatives have been in the fight for giving women the right to vote longer than anyone else. I do not personally know any conservatives who regret giving women the right to vote much less want to go back to the day when they couldn’t.

I would respectfully suggest that you do some research about conservative beliefs and the party that you obviously currently support and then seriously consider whether you are simply repeating the talking points you’ve been handed or if you really believe some of the stuff you are saying. My belief is that once you do that, you’ll either see the light or continue voting to send our National along the path to ruin. It’s your vote, and it’s your choice. But either way, know this for sure, there are a significant number of everyday Americans out there who have done the research and they will be working hard to counter-act the liberal message you are putting out there.

I’m glad that we had the opportunity to debate, but I seriously doubt that anything I say will change your mind or your opinion.

Best of luck to you and your party in November, I believe you’ll need it.

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Glad to see others are composing “Open letters to liberals.” I’ve done the same on my blog:

http://responsiblefreedom.wordpress.com/

I’m also glad to see people answering the charge against conservatives being racists, as Uncle Vinny puts forward in his charge that under conservativism we’d still have slavery. That was the Democratic party that supported slavery and Jim Crow, not Republicans. I also saw a lot more racism when I lived in Berkeley, CA (I saw two landlords who said they would not rent to blacks, and one said he didn’t want to rent to a woman because the apartment was on the ground floor) than I’ve seen anywhere else.

Actually, probably the most damaging form of racism remaining is the Left’s insistance on holding onto Affirmative Action, since doing so puts an apostrophe next to any accomplishment made by a minority. I don’t believe anyone needs standards to be lowered just because their skin is of a certain hue.

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